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« on: June 07, 2008, 09:58:01 AM »

Standard 580 grip with 3 wraps is how close to a midsize?
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2008, 10:33:27 AM »

assuming you are putting the 580 grip on a 580 shaft, 3 wraps will give you 1/32"= .031" over standard.   so if 1/16"=.062" is considered midsize you are half way. each additional wrap will give you 1/64"=.015". if you are putting the 580 grip on a 600 shaft you are allready 1/64", over so 2 additional wraps will do it.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2008, 11:07:01 AM »

assuming you are putting the 580 grip on a 580 shaft, 3 wraps will give you 1/32"= .031" over standard.   so if 1/16"=.062" is considered midsize you are half way. each additional wrap will give you 1/64"=.015". if you are putting the 580 grip on a 600 shaft you are allready 1/64", over so 2 additional wraps will do it.

So, that's assuming the grip tape is .010" thick (or so)?

But, if you're using 2" wide tape and wrapping it around the shaft lengthwise, aren't you actually adding double the thickness, or one layer on opposite sides of the shaft? That .010" is now .020" for each wrap, 3 wraps placed over each other (remember to stagger/rotate the seams on the tape layers) is actually now .060", pretty damn close to 1/16th of an inch.  If you're using 1/2" wide tape and doing a spiral wrap, with 1/2" between each spirall, then you're efectively only adding the tape to one side of the shaft or the other, correct?

Unless the grip tape is only .005-.006" thick, then your above statement of 3 wraps equaling .031" is correct. But, for some reason, it just doesn't seem like it would take 160-200 strips of tape on top of each other to equal 1".  (.005"x200=1.000", .006"X160=.960")

Don't want to come across as an ass, just trying to play Devil's advocate   emot-angel and learn something in the process.

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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2008, 11:12:14 AM »

Here's a good chart:
http://www.golfworks.com/images/art/GripSizing.pdf

I noticed on the chart (and thewitt has mentioned) that the thickness of build-up tape is thinner than that of 2-sided tape.
So as I read the chart, if using masking/buildup tape, to achieve the +1/16 midsize outside diameter using a .580 grip on a .600 butt shaft, it would require 4 layers of masking/buildup tape, AND one layer of 2-sided tape and then the grip. Am I interpreting the chart correctly?
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2008, 11:47:55 AM »

There are a few variable here...

Standard masking tape is 0.0035" thick, so one wrap is 0.007" thick.

There is no "standard" measurement for midsize grips, so you have to know WHICH midsize grip you are trying to match before you can determine how many wraps.

Just remember that when you start, a .580 core grip on a .600 diameter shaft is +0.020", but .580 on .580 is standard and .600 on .600 is standard, and if you know how thick your tape is you can easily calculate how many wraps you need to get where you want to go.

One layer of grip tape is assumed in all of the calculations, so don't add it into the mix...

For +1/16 that would be +0.0625, or .580 on .600 + .0425" - if your tape is 0.0035" thick, that's 6 wraps.  If your tape is 0.005" thick, that's 4 wraps.

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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2008, 11:59:17 AM »

There are a few variable here...

Standard masking tape is 0.0035" thick, so one wrap is 0.007" thick.

There is no "standard" measurement for midsize grips, so you have to know WHICH midsize grip you are trying to match before you can determine how many wraps.

Just remember that when you start, a .580 core grip on a .600 diameter shaft is +0.020", but .580 on .580 is standard and .600 on .600 is standard, and if you know how thick your tape is you can easily calculate how many wraps you need to get where you want to go.

One layer of grip tape is assumed in all of the calculations, so don't add it into the mix...

For +1/16 that would be +0.0625, or .580 on .600 + .0425" - if your tape is 0.0035" thick, that's 6 wraps.  If your tape is 0.005" thick, that's 4 wraps.

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Tim - I think I follow you on the whole .580/.600 comparison, just didn't think that masking/buildup tape was/is only approximately 1/300th of an inch thick.

In my case... .580 core Lamkin Permawrap Jumbo's (+1/8"), with 4 wraps on the DG SLS300's (.600 dia) would be?  My second set with the Jumbo's over 8 wraps on DG X100's? I used grip tape for each layer, not masking tape.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2008, 02:07:00 PM »

Again, without measuring the thickness of your tape you are only guessing at how thick the tape is...

If you are trying to get to a finished grip size of +1/8, that's +0.125"

A .580 core grip on a .600 diameter shaft is +0.020 - that leaves +0.105 to go.

If your grip tape is 0.005" (Tape Rite for instance), you would need 10 wraps of tape to get to +0.100" or +1/8" assuming .580 core grip on .600 diameter shaft.

Your 4 wraps will be +1/16

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