MacGregor Ceramic Face Irons

[Richard Nixon]

Anybody know anything about the MacGregor MT2 irons with ceramic faces?

[bl8d]

If it's the flatback '65 model they are decent with the stock propel shaft.
The later Accuform PTM in stainless looked similar to the '65 MT2 and in-spite their uninspiring flat backs both were good playing irons.
The ceramic face technology was new but it chipped easily and thereafter wore fairly quickly.

[bcheeks]

i have a set in the basement but i've never hit them. 

[Richard Nixon]

What do the X's on the hosel mean? I know those seem to make the putters on EBay with them a bigger deal. Do they matter on irons?

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[bl8d]

nothing specially significant about the hosel xxx knurl. No it didn't mean they were "tour" issue  .The CF4000 were not particularly good irons. They were designed by Toney Penna, but it's not his best stuff.
MacGregor had huge broaching machines to scoop out the back on those blades something few if any of the others could do at the time. When Investment Castings came into vogue those expensive machines were put out to pasture.

[Richard Nixon]

nothing specially significant about the hosel xxx knurl. No it didn't mean they were "tour" issue  .The CF4000 were not particularly good irons. They were designed by Toney Penna, but it's not his best stuff.
MacGregor had huge broaching machines to scoop out the back on those blades something few if any of the others could do at the time. When Investment Castings came into vogue those expensive machines were put out to pasture.

So you're saying they're probably worth the $3 I paid for them?

[KBob]

I believe the Flame Ceramic concept was introduced by MacGregor around 1959.  Supposedly, it was originated for the aircraft industry where high heat deteriorated parts subjected to high heat.

It is a powdered ceramic that was sprayed on to the faces at high temperature fuse the metal and ceramic.  The intention was to create resistance to corrosion, abrasion and other forms of wear, including extreme heat.

Probably the most significant attribute of the irons was it made "framing" shots easier with the black faces against chrome.  It was granted a patent in golf.

You may also know that Penna introduced copper-faced irons too, but these were done by dipping the entire clubhed in a copper bath, then masking off the face and applying nickel plating then chrome.  When the masking was removed, it yielded an awesome looking clubhead.  I believe his Toney Penna VIP TP63 models, in good condition, are highly prized by collectors.  By the way, on this model, there are seven piece ferrules on each iron.  They would be cost prohibitive to make today, due to the detail and processes required. 

[maf19]

I have a MacGregor Great Scot "Double Duty" wedge that has the ceramic face.    I game it from time to time for kicks.  The ceramic face has a great feel to it and provides pretty lively ball response.

[KBob]

Just found out that the CF 4000 model meant "Ceramic Face that was fired at 4000 degrees.