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« on: April 22, 2010, 11:04:39 AM »

I had a little hiccup inmy game the last few days and I think I have a little chicken wing thingy going on...  My natural ball flight is draw bias and I have opened up my stance a bit and have been hitting the ball great (and really long) this year.  Suddenly, I seem to be hitting weak slices to the right, which I've never done before, with every club above 8 iron and the driver is close to suicidal. I might be off but I don't think i'm closing down until long after impact. Any thoughts or drills I could work on?
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2010, 11:25:44 AM »

Chicken wing comes from not properly rotating the forearms.If the forearms do not supinate,we  can't properly bend the elbows in correct motions.

Hogan says in "5 Lessons" that the golf downswing must include, 1. Starting down with hips, 2. it is one continuous movement from top to finish, and 3. that the lead wrist is supinated before impact, the knuckles of that hand are facing down just before impact and the hands lead the clubhead.



One of the most important things about this supination is that it is NOT achieved by the wrists or the small muscles in the hands.  The wrists are too weak to force this position and too weak to overcome the huge forces that the swing is generating.  The way to achieve this supination is to use the large muscles of the body properly in the golf swing.

That sounds a bit strange, doesn’t it?  Here is an image of the left wrist supinating, but you can’t force it to happen.  You allow it to happen by doing the right things in the swing.

Drills for supination

1. Left hand only half swings (do not hit the ground or a golf ball with this drill)

Start with you normal stance, but only your left hand on the club.  Take the club back only until the shaft is parallel to the ground with the toe pointing straight up.  On the way back you should feel your left forearm rotating.  If you are wearing a watch, the watch should almost face the sky or ceiling when the toe of the club is pointing up.  Your shoulders should rotate too and their rotation should stop when the shaft reaches parallel.

Initiate the downswing by rotating your hips to the left.  You should feel a small delay in the arms.  Take the club through until it is also parallel with the ground.  The toe should be up and have rotated somewhat to the left.  While you are doing these short swings, take a look at the position of your left hand, it should match the drawing.  If it is not matching, don’t force it match by using your wrists.  That doesn’t work.  You need to feel large muscles actually driving the rotation of the club face.

It will take some practice but this drill will help you to feel the club releasing and rotating through impact.  As you do this drill, you will improve your left hand arm action and it will help you hit the ball longer and straighter.
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2010, 12:58:05 PM »

Wow, thanks Big Lefty...   I guess trying to close with the right hand was only making things worse
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2010, 06:22:08 PM »

I had a little hiccup inmy game the last few days and I think I have a little chicken wing thingy going on...  My natural ball flight is draw bias and I have opened up my stance a bit and have been hitting the ball great (and really long) this year.  Suddenly, I seem to be hitting weak slices to the right, which I've never done before, with every club above 8 iron and the driver is close to suicidal. I might be off but I don't think i'm closing down until long after impact. Any thoughts or drills I could work on?

One great, and specific cure of the chicken wing, is to feel your left elbow going towards your navel through impact.  That is a great feeling to keep the left forearm against your left side going through the ball.  Left elbow stuck into you navel.

Hit a lot of 1/2 shots wit a 7-iron to ingrain the feeling.
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2010, 06:32:33 PM »

One great, and specific cure of the chicken wing, is to feel your left elbow going towards your navel through impact.  That is a great feeling to keep the left forearm against your left side going through the ball.  Left elbow stuck into you navel.

Hit a lot of 1/2 shots wit a 7-iron to ingrain the feeling.

Interesting drill ...........I'm going to use that thought for a buddy of mine who is always fighting the dreaded "chicken wing".
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2010, 05:29:16 PM »

Tom Watson said that he focuses on rotating his left forearm through the shot, but at the same time keeping his left upper arm against his chest.

Another way of "sticking the left elbow in the navel."
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2010, 07:05:16 PM »

A pivot stall is your issue.. whether you are stalling the shoulder turn and/or the hips
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2010, 10:10:49 PM »

I'm waiting for Larry's advice. laugh
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2010, 07:01:47 PM »

One great, and specific cure of the chicken wing, is to feel your left elbow going towards your navel through impact.  That is a great feeling to keep the left forearm against your left side going through the ball.  Left elbow stuck into you navel.

Wow . . . I've been reading about golf swings and taking lessons for 25+ years and never had anybody describe it that way, but it is perfectly clear.

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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2010, 07:40:38 PM »

I have been using my digi-cam and www.mytpi.com to work on my swing.  I had a chickenwing issue.  Their instruction was to work on keeping your elbows pointing at your hips and your upper arms connected to your chest.  There drill was to make practice swings squeezing your elbows together.  It has worked for me as I have been hitting the ball higher and longer than ever before.
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2010, 07:54:45 PM »

Pull up your shirt sleeve slightly and hold it in place in your armpit. Take swing. Don't let go of that shirt sleeve.
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