Heard the new Nike Method Putters Suck

[bcheeks]

I heard from a reliable source today that the new super hyped Nike Method putters suck.  He said the heel shafted mid mallet rocks closed and sent me the attached pic and they all feel horrible.  Obviously feel is subjective but look at the pic.  Really Nike?  That's the best you could do?

[rlheiman]

Don't know about that one, but the 001 model rolled the ball really nicely.  A soft solid click with instant top spin.  Hope to have my own soon to give it more thought and attempts, but the 001 model doesn't suck.

[nobogeys59]

Maybe they left that one in the oven too long. 

[bcheeks]

Don't know about that one, but the 001 model rolled the ball really nicely.  A soft solid click with instant top spin.  Hope to have my own soon to give it more thought and attempts, but the 001 model doesn't suck.

Glad you found one that works for you Ryan.  I'd still like to try them once they have them in stock around here just to see what I think of them but a putter that rocks closed is out for me and if that model really rocks that closed I won't even bother rolling a putt with it. 

[jwolf77869]

Mine 001 feels great-Scotty is leaving

[banistr]

They are terrible....saw one today a the local PGA Superstore and the site dot isn't even lined up with the sweet spot of the putter. WTF?

[ShaneNZ]

Putter didn't stay in your bag for too long then Brian 

[tommyk90]

I tried all of the models.

The one thing I noticed is that they all feel a bit "light", also the looks could have been improved.  From the address position they look a little cheap.

But one nice thing I saw was the instant top-spin and very little hopping.

Although the new odyssey black series is much nicer.

[MN723]

I rolled a couple the other day.  I agree that the sight dots and flange lines seem to be towards the toe of where the sweet spot normally is.  I didn't like the feel either, though the roll off the face seemed nice.  Overall, I'll pass.

[Indacup]

I heard from a reliable source today that the new super hyped Nike Method putters suck.  He said the heel shafted mid mallet rocks closed and sent me the attached pic and they all feel horrible.  Obviously feel is subjective but look at the pic.  Really Nike?  That's the best you could do?

That's just a bad camera angle shot there.....like when people take a picture of their driver at address, they always look closed.

[RexWrx]

I took that picture - and you'll see from some of my prior topics I know how to take pictures just fine. It is that closed at address. Booyakasha

[XtremeCruiser]

That's just a bad camera angle shot there.....like when people take a picture of their driver at address, they always look closed.

It's bent for draw putts 

[RexWrx]

It's bent for draw putts 

Or the extremely inside-out putting stroke 

[WU_SCgolfer]

I saw these today and it does lay closed, they did have lefty version I putted with in the 001 and I was not real impressed.  It was light, goofy grip and I didn't think it felt as good as my cleveland classics.

[Indacup]

I took that picture - and you'll see from some of my prior topics I know how to take pictures just fine. It is that closed at address. Booyakasha

No, it is NOT that closed at address. It appears in your picture because you TURNED it closed.

Look here-->  http://www.nike.com/nikegolf/methodputter/#/themethod  --> then scroll down to the method 003 putter.

[daughterscameron]

Or the extremely inside-out putting stroke 

Now you're making fun of my putting stroke???

FWIW, I saw a couple of these, I didn't like the look of them either. 

[bcheeks]

No, it is NOT that closed at address. It appears in your picture because you TURNED it closed.

Look here-->  http://www.nike.com/nikegolf/methodputter/#/themethod  --> then scroll down to the method 003 putter.

So 2 members have tried the putter and both say its closed but we should believe it's not because the picture on the nike site isn't closed?   

[Braithwaite]

So 2 members have tried the putter and both say its closed but we should believe it's not because the picture on the nike site isn't closed?   

Exactly, Nike would  never show pictures on their site of a putter sitting closed, heard from many that this putter does sit closed and will soon go check for myself.

[Indacup]

You realize of course that all putters are made with a 0* face angle correct? That only lofts vary?

Yet you insist that the face in closed. Why would anyone make a closed face? For a draw?

Get serious.

Do you realize that to I.D. a head as a degree or two open or closed is almost impossible to determine with the naked eye? That is why we employ more elaborate, calibrated systems to determine face angle.....did you use a lie/loft machine?

The image provided is grossly out of line due to camera angle and intentional or unintentional MANUALLY closing the face...that closure would have to be in excess of 15* to be THAT visable.

But you are claiming that the heads are still closed...

So the following people/sources are wrong:

Nike design team is wrong
Nike production dept was wrong
Nike QA/QC dept missed the design flaws
Nike tour players who tested and use them in play have no idea what they're doing and didn't catch it
Distributors world wide who have them never saw it
Dealers worldwide who have them never noticed it
All the visitors at golf shows and demos world wide never noticed it
All the media (magazines, newspapers, TV/Radio) reviewers who've tested them never noticed it


Everyone is wrong...but two guys who have absolutely no technical background or employed any technical means to confirm their accusations.

And bear in mind, ONE of the guys who proclaims to post accuracy in his posts recently promulgated that soft flex shafts cause slices while if you wanna hook, you get a stiff shaft.

So somewhere along the lines, we need to review the sources for these claims and not just amateur pictures.

[RexWrx]

You realize of course that all putters are made with a 0* face angle correct? That only lofts vary?

Yet you insist that the face in closed. Why would anyone make a closed face? For a draw?

Get serious.

Do you realize that to I.D. a head as a degree or two open or closed is almost impossible to determine with the naked eye? That is why we employ more elaborate, calibrated systems to determine face angle.....did you use a lie/loft machine?

The image provided is grossly out of line due to camera angle and intentional or unintentional MANUALLY closing the face...that closure would have to be in excess of 15* to be THAT visable.

But you are claiming that the heads are still closed...

So the following people/sources are wrong:

Nike design team is wrong
Nike production dept was wrong
Nike QA/QC dept missed the design flaws
Nike tour players who tested and use them in play have no idea what they're doing and didn't catch it
Distributors world wide who have them never saw it
Dealers worldwide who have them never noticed it
All the visitors at golf shows and demos world wide never noticed it
All the media (magazines, newspapers, TV/Radio) reviewers who've tested them never noticed it


Everyone is wrong...but two guys who have absolutely no technical background or employed any technical means to confirm their accusations.

And bear in mind, ONE of the guys who proclaims to post accuracy in his posts recently promulgated that soft flex shafts cause slices while if you wanna hook, you get a stiff shaft.

So somewhere along the lines, we need to review the sources for these claims and not just amateur pictures.

Do you realize that sole radius and draft angle determine how a putter sits at address? Aside from being a prick and disputing two members that say it sits closed in hand - myself included - have you had one in hand yourself? Do you think an Odyssey XG #9 also sits square?

[bcheeks]

No one is claiming the putter was designed to have a closed face angle. The post says the putter rocks closed. This does happen with some putters. The Never Compromise #4 comes to mind, that putter also rocked closed when set down at address.  

[golfergeorge]

What is the reference used when referring to the face angle of a putter being open/square/closed?  It seems that there would be a difference whether the relationship is between the face and the sole or the face and the shaft.  Compound bends in putter shafts would make this challangeing to accurately measure.  Do putter designers have an industry accepted standard for the measurement of putter face angles?  

[rockford35]

Do you think an Odyssey XG #9 also sits square?

The #9 is closed. I have one at home.

R35

[RexWrx]

All I ask is you go pick up a Method 001 - it sits dead square at address. Pick up a Method 003 - and it sits dead nuts closed at address. See for yourself.

These retail methods are made overseas, not at the Oven in Ft Worth where the tour versions are produced. It's not much of a leap in logic to expect greater manufacturing variance on the retail models. Is it?

[RexWrx]

From ScottyCameron.com

SOLE DRAFT ANGLE

Negative bounce on the sole that prevents the putter from sitting or looking closed. Allows the putter to sit open but never closed. Most players on tour don’t mind a putter that looks open but they never want to see a putter that is closed.