Graphite Design-Pershing PRO model

[bailey]

Anyone have an experience with this shaft?  If so, how does it compare to the regular Pershing, or other popular shafts?

I have a 65 model on order.

Thanks,
Rob

[SBR67]

I was looking at a standard 65S for a Tour Burner. I didn't know that they had a Pro model. Whats the difference between the standard and the Pro?

[bailey]

The Pro has a higher launch angle (more torque too).

Here are the auctions from Graphite Design where I saw them:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Graphite-Design-Pershing-65-PRO-X-Stiff-Flex-shaft_W0QQitemZ160357141430QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGolf_Clubmaking_Products_US?hash=item255607cbb6&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com/Graphite-Design-Pershing-65-X-Stiff-Flex-shaft_W0QQitemZ160353700994QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGolf_Clubmaking_Products_US?hash=item2555d34c82&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

I had never heard of a Pro model before I saw this auction.  GD accepted a best offer of $40 for the Pro model.  I bought a couple of the black Purple Ice shafts from them also. 

[SBR67]

Interesting. I knew Aldila auctioned their stuff on ebay, but I didn't know GD did. Thanks.

[bl8d]

according to their write-up it has a high balance point(counterbalance) built in. Its' basically a tip stiff lower launching version of the popular Pershing

[bailey]

Both shafts are described with "high balance point promotes improved feel for players using today's larger heads."

And the Launch Angle is listed as "Mid" for the PRO model and "Mid/Low" for the regular Pershing.

[ShaneNZ]

i would assume the pro would be lower launch and spin compared to the normal pershing ? but you know what they say about assumptions 

[bl8d]

Both shafts are described with "high balance point promotes improved feel for players using today's larger heads."

And the Launch Angle is listed as "Mid" for the PRO model and "Mid/Low" for the regular Pershing.

TB the mid/low refers to the "kick point". 
This is IMO an obscure and confusing reference point on a shaft since all three designations occur usually over a total distance of less than 2" on a shaft. Low-mid-high have the visual connotation that they are separated by quite some distance when in fact it is very small. Not only that  but the meaning is the opposite of what you might imagine it to be as well.
 A "high" kick point would actually make for a lower launch angle and a low/mid would launch somewhat higher (confusing I know.)

[bailey]

TB the mid/low refers to the "kick point". 
This is IMO an obscure and confusing reference point on a shaft since all three designations occur usually over a total distance of less than 2" on a shaft. Low-mid-high have the visual connotation that they are separated by quite some distance when in fact it is very small. Not only that  but the meaning is the opposite of what you might imagine it to be as well.
 A "high" kick point would actually make for a lower launch angle and a low/mid would launch somewhat higher (confusing I know.)

The auction for the PRO Pershing shaft lists: "Kick Point: Mid"

and the auction for the regular Preshing shafts lists: "Kick Point: Mid/High"

[bl8d]

The auction for the PRO Pershing shaft lists: "Kick Point: Mid"

and the auction for the regular Preshing shafts lists: "Kick Point: Mid/High"

that is peculiar ,if they indeed have the regular version as having a slightly lower trajectory capability.

However, given that the attitude towards an optimum launch angle has undergone a revision in the last years from its onetime low angle to a comparative higher launch in order to max the distance, and given that the average loft used on tour is fairly low (8.5) I'm not all that surprised that the launch is fixed in the middle range which would suggest a happy medium that would possibly give the best launch angle and roll out.

[Jaylasvegas]

are these anything like the prototype models on sale on ebay at the moment?

[bailey]

are these anything like the prototype models on sale on ebay at the moment?

I ordered this shaft from Graphite Design's ebay auction. 

Most of the reviews of the Pershing are positive, so I'm looking forward to giving this one a try.  I also bought a couple of the black Purple Ice shafts.

[FrenchFries]

are these anything like the prototype models on sale on ebay at the moment?

I also thought it was the Tour version some dealers are selling on E**y...

This tour version seems interesting too as Pershing is a really good overall shaft but perhaps a little bit too "smooth" for drivers...well, I should say for some types of players...

[accufitgolf]

that is peculiar ,if they indeed have the regular version as having a slightly lower trajectory capability.

However, given that the attitude towards an optimum launch angle has undergone a revision in the last years from its onetime low angle to a comparative higher launch in order to max the distance, and given that the average loft used on tour is fairly low (8.5) I'm not all that surprised that the launch is fixed in the middle range which would suggest a happy medium that would possibly give the best launch angle and roll out.

Tom Wishon: “among more then 1,000 different shafts designs, the distance between the highest and lowest kick points is just under 2 inches. Furthermore, when the highest and the lowest kick points were tested, the launch angle difference of shots hit with the two shafts was one degree. A change in launch angle of just one degree is difficult for most golfers to detect, so kick point has to be considered a minor factor for trajectory.”

[bl8d]

I think the confusion here lies in that they ascribed attributes to the Kick Point normally associated to the launch angle.

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Thanks for the heads up KenHoLio , I certainly don't want to confuse the membership - 

I had never heard of a Pro model before I saw this auction.  GD accepted a best offer of $40 for the Pro model.  I bought a couple of the black Purple Ice shafts from them also.

I just purchased a Pershing from Diamond Tour - $20.00 

I haven't had it long enough for a review with the "new" Nak but an $80 shaft (when introduced) for $20 is one helluva deal.

rob