Help! - Losing distance with steel shaft

[Ant]

Got a set of Mizuno MP60 with NS pro 950 regular flex shaft . My swing speed is not high. I think only 90-95. Love the feel of sweet contact and especially the accuracy it give. I was previosuly using graphite shaft.

But the only disappointing part is the drop in distance! I have to use 2 club up to get the same distance with graphite shaft. Is there something that I am missing here? Kick point, wrong flex? Length? Adjust to stronger loft?

In the past I could do 170 yard with a 7 iron club with graphite shaft. Now, for the same distance I have to use a 5 irons with the NSpro 950 but I am extremely happy with the small dispersion it provide.

Any suggestion is much appreciated.

[rcain1us]

What irons were you using before - the Mizunos also have weaker lofts that some others?

Which graphite shafts were you using before (how heavy were they?

[Badbo]

With swing speeds of 90 to 95, that should be about right. Your other clubs may have had stronger lofts. just a thought.



badbo

[Desmond]

Two Things.

1. Nippon 950s run a little weak to flex if normally installed. They also tend to get the ball higher and have a midkick point. They usually work best for smooth tempos from all of my reading and experience.

You may be getting more launch, more spin and more height than your former shaft - cutting down on your distance.

2. The MP-60 head may also be up to a club less than the irons you once used - check the lofts of your old irons versus the MP-60s. But some clubs are just a little shorter than others even given similar lofts.

You would benefit from a fitting.

Without that, it's hard to pinpoint the issue --

If you want to keep the clubs, you can state your complaints to your retailer who can relay them to Mizuno; were you fitted by a Mizuno Rep or Retailer? If so, they may replace those shafts with something else.

[Ant]

Thank you all for the suggestion. I will ask a club fitter to check the loft again. My previous club are Japanese S-Yard model U101. I don't think it is very popular in the USA. The graphite shaft are very light but I don't like the dispersion it give. Even with the 6 irons with graphite shaft, I could get 170m which is almost 200 yrds, but the direction can be wild at times. The Mizuno with the NS Pro regular 950 shaft has a more definitely smaller dispersion even on off centre shot. Just today, I am good number of regulation in green but with frequently using 6 or 5 irons and at times with 4 irons for 2nd shot on par 4. I am hoping to get accuracy without much loss in distance. 

[Ant]

Hi,

Sorry. Don't understand what you meant by "Nippon 950s run a little weak to flex if normally installed" How else can they be installed?

Yes, the triject is rather high and the ball really bite on the green. Any other steel shaft that I should consider?

I know if I bend the loft to stronger, I amy affect my loft and hit fat shot more often. Any suggestion to overcome this?

Thanks!

Ant

Two Things.

1. Nippon 950s run a little weak to flex if normally installed. They also tend to get the ball higher and have a midkick point. They usually work best for smooth tempos from all of my reading and experience.

You may be getting more launch, more spin and more height than your former shaft - cutting down on your distance.

2. The MP-60 head may also be up to a club less than the irons you once used - check the lofts of your old irons versus the MP-60s. But some clubs are just a little shorter than others even given similar lofts.

You would benefit from a fitting.

Without that, it's hard to pinpoint the issue --

If you want to keep the clubs, you can state your complaints to your retailer who can relay them to Mizuno; were you fitted by a Mizuno Rep or Retailer? If so, they may replace those shafts with something else.

[Desmond]

Hi,

Sorry. Don't understand what you meant by "Nippon 950s run a little weak to flex if normally installed" How else can they be installed?

Yes, the triject is rather high and the ball really bite on the green. Any other steel shaft that I should consider?

I know if I bend the loft to stronger, I amy affect my loft and hit fat shot more often. Any suggestion to overcome this?

Thanks!

Ant

Two Things.

1. Nippon 950s run a little weak to flex if normally installed. They also tend to get the ball higher and have a midkick point. They usually work best for smooth tempos from all of my reading and experience.

You may be getting more launch, more spin and more height than your former shaft - cutting down on your distance.

2. The MP-60 head may also be up to a club less than the irons you once used - check the lofts of your old irons versus the MP-60s. But some clubs are just a little shorter than others even given similar lofts.

You would benefit from a fitting.

Without that, it's hard to pinpoint the issue --

If you want to keep the clubs, you can state your complaints to your retailer who can relay them to Mizuno; were you fitted by a Mizuno Rep or Retailer? If so, they may replace those shafts with something else.

Ant -- a clubmaker can hardstep the shafts -- Put the PW Shaft in the 9i, the 9i shaft in the 8i, the 8i shaft in the 7i, etc.

That effectively makes your tip a little stiffer and will get you a slightly lower launch. Of course, hardstepping with the shafts you have now is tough because they are cut to length and putting your current PW shaft in your 9i will make the club shorter -- so if you explore that idea, you either get new shafts or extensions.

You might have a clubmaker take the 8i shaft and put it in your 7i - have him extend it 1/2 inch, and try it on the course - see what happens -- it might be your answer. If it works, get the Nippons hardstepped.

[Ant]

Hi,

Sorry. Don't understand what you meant by "Nippon 950s run a little weak to flex if normally installed" How else can they be installed?

Yes, the triject is rather high and the ball really bite on the green. Any other steel shaft that I should consider?

I know if I bend the loft to stronger, I amy affect my loft and hit fat shot more often. Any suggestion to overcome this?

Thanks!

Ant

Two Things.

1. Nippon 950s run a little weak to flex if normally installed. They also tend to get the ball higher and have a midkick point. They usually work best for smooth tempos from all of my reading and experience.

You may be getting more launch, more spin and more height than your former shaft - cutting down on your distance.

2. The MP-60 head may also be up to a club less than the irons you once used - check the lofts of your old irons versus the MP-60s. But some clubs are just a little shorter than others even given similar lofts.

You would benefit from a fitting.

Without that, it's hard to pinpoint the issue --

If you want to keep the clubs, you can state your complaints to your retailer who can relay them to Mizuno; were you fitted by a Mizuno Rep or Retailer? If so, they may replace those shafts with something else.

Ant -- a clubmaker can hardstep the shafts -- Put the PW Shaft in the 9i, the 9i shaft in the 8i, the 8i shaft in the 7i, etc.

That effectively makes your tip a little stiffer and will get you a slightly lower launch. Of course, hardstepping with the shafts you have now is tough because they are cut to length and putting your current PW shaft in your 9i will make the club shorter -- so if you explore that idea, you either get new shafts or extensions.

You might have a clubmaker take the 8i shaft and put it in your 7i - have him extend it 1/2 inch, and try it on the course - see what happens -- it might be your answer. If it works, get the Nippons hardstepped.

Thanks for the reply. Mmmmm... I tot if you put the PW shaft to 9 iron, is it not going to make the 9 iron launch higher and reduce the distance? Sorry, I am not familiar with. I tot PW (or it shaft) will launch the ball high than 9 iron? Pardon my ignornace.

[ronin74]

In essence, the PW shaft is stiffer than the 9 iron shaft because the PW head is heavier.  So, if you put the PW shaft into the the 9 iron head, the ballflight will lower slightly and you may get a little more roll. 

As mentioned, testing this idea with the 8 iron shaft in the 7 iron head would let you know if this will work or not.  It is also reversible.