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Question: Your Putting Stroke with Comments (please!)
SBST (straight back, straight through) - 65 (58.6%)
Traditional Gated (Arc) Stroke - 32 (28.8%)
Stan Utley Stroke - 7 (6.3%)
Pat O-Brien (Zach Johnson) Stroke - 5 (4.5%)
Old-Time Wristy Stroke - 2 (1.8%)
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« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2007, 04:43:43 PM »

eyes don't necessarily have to be over the ball or inside the ball - just in a constant fixed position
however the closer you are to being over the ball  has the effect of producing a shallower movement pattern and if you do multiply face angle then your doing it with less variable.
plus most peoples perception of what is "eyes over the ball" isn't correct



Moving over the ball is not an absolute. I have seen too many where there was no effect to make that claim.  If you are looking for a straighter path you can get the same effect by moving closer to the ball and making the hands more active.

Even if you do get the eyes over the ball properly, neck parallel to the ground, so the shoulders rotate on a vertical plane, you still have to deal with the visual interference of the person who percieves the line of the putt to be a different direction than it is.

They are going to swing the putter as the see the task and the mechanics won't matter much.

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« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2007, 02:40:32 PM »

if your eyes move in line  within the ball line, or parallel to it - you can get away with the movement
the more they cross the line  the bigger the tendency for the club path and face to go the same way ,or to compensate by holding off in a different direction
i don't believe anyone should look to create any path other than their own neutral , natural movement pattern
can you explain please why the hands would become more active when moving closer to the ball?

i don't believe the most natural action of putting is a movement controlled by both shoulders - the movement of one makes the other move , it doesn't have to be a conscious action

i agree everyones perception of aim and line are different , this area can also be compromised by poor routine prior to the stroke itself

you can make anything work - but for consistency certain points have to repeat , and better still match your angles and how you move


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« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2007, 12:07:58 AM »

I'm really confused on mine now.  I went to play today since my IBBF arrived.  On the first 9 I used the IBBF and the 2nd I used my Newport Weld Neck CS....Couldn't tell a difference even though the toe hang was night and day different.  I don't get it. LOL
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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2008, 02:43:35 PM »

if your eyes move in line  within the ball line, or parallel to it - you can get away with the movement
the more they cross the line  the bigger the tendency for the club path and face to go the same way ,or to compensate by holding off in a different direction
i don't believe anyone should look to create any path other than their own neutral , natural movement pattern
can you explain please why the hands would become more active when moving closer to the ball?

i don't believe the most natural action of putting is a movement controlled by both shoulders - the movement of one makes the other move , it doesn't have to be a conscious action

i agree everyones perception of aim and line are different , this area can also be compromised by poor routine prior to the stroke itself

you can make anything work - but for consistency certain points have to repeat , and better still match your angles and how you move




Sorry. Out of commision for awhile.

I am going back awhile but take a player like Don january. Stood very close to the ball with a very upright putter used his hands,wrists  and forearms to control the stroke and was very effective. Raymond Floyd used a similar technique with success as well. His was out of necessity to relieve the strain on his back.The path was very straight, the face stayed very square to the line.
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« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2008, 05:35:57 AM »

Love my SeeMore putter.

Fits great with the O'brien style of stroke, which has been my natural stroke all along.

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« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2008, 10:15:26 PM »

I am a SBST with left hand low, which I think is the only way you can use SBST without manipulating your hands (but that's another thread so I'll post thoughts there).

I just purchased a BHB12 'The Hawk' centre shafted face balanced mallet, and for my stroke and grip it's a perfect fit.  I have always liked a soft feel from the putter and I love the feel that an aluminium milled putter gives.  Haven't used it in cmpetition yet but had a go on the practice green yesterday and it felt very nice (Even though the greens hadn just been sanded so couldn't really judge performance).  Will be taking out in the Saturday comp tomorrow with high hopes.
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« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2009, 08:59:23 PM »

My putting impproved when I realized that I needed a face balanced putter due to my SBST style.
On my third differnent TM Monza...had a reg monza then the Corza and now a SPider.
Will never go back and try a HT putter
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« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2009, 11:49:00 AM »

I use a straight in centre shafted,face balanced putter as I`m left eye dominant and putt left hand low.I suppose I aim for a pendulum SBST stroke but as we stand to the side of the ball we ALL swing the putter on an arc to a greater or lesser degree.
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« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2009, 05:56:25 PM »

Not enough options so I voted Utley, but I also experiment with the inside-to-down-the-line or IDL and the inside-to-outside or hood-and-hang-on.  These are all permutations of the arc and sbst strokes.

I am an Utley believer but I the hood-and-hang on also works amazingly well.  Just getting my touch down with it more.  But short 3-5 footers are almost automatic.
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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2009, 06:01:06 PM »

no idea what putting stroke i have - what do you call your putting stroke when you address the ball and swing the putter back and then through  big_giggle
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« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2009, 07:38:01 PM »

I have a gate style stroke, I practice with the Putting Arc
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« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2009, 06:51:10 AM »

SBST for me, use a Craig Stadler type of claw grip, putter is a Seemore SB-1 face balanced c/s mallet. Love it.
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