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« on: November 30, 2007, 10:11:00 AM » |
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Hey Guys,
Just Curious as to see what the most common stroke is here. Meaning, Do you have a Straight-Back-Straight-Thru Stroke, or do you have a Gated Stroke
Now..Which Type of putter do you use. Examples:
1) Heel Toe Weighted plumber neck
2) Heel Toe Weighted 1.5 Neck
2) Face Balanced
3) Heel Toe Weighted - Center Shaft
4) Center Shaft Face Balanced
5) Face Balanced No Neck
6) Heel Toe Weighted No Neck
I know I am an Anomoly. I have a SBST stroke, but I use a HT weighted putter.
What do the rest of yall use?
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2007, 10:25:06 AM » |
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Chris -- I generated a poll for you.
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2007, 10:28:21 AM » |
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The present gamer is a SeeMore mFGP -- it is a blade type style that is center-shafted weighted toe down.
The putting stroke is Pat O'Brien's -- which has no moving parts other than the shoulders moving around you - -back and thru stroke. It is a take on the traditional gated or arc stroke -- so the toe down blade is compatible with the stroke.
Generally --
Toe Down = Some Variation of an Arc Stroke
Face Balanced = SBST, but can be Arc, too. (it depends on the player)
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2007, 10:57:59 AM » |
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I have a gated stroke, don't know if it's an OBrienGate, or an UtleyGate, but it swings.
I prefer the Heel Toe weighted Plumbers neck style of putter, and my gamer is my mills softtail custom with a plumber's neck. I am looking for a plumber's neck mallet that is very slightly toe down, just for giggles.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2007, 11:11:57 AM » |
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I use something akin to the O'Brien stroke... My Martinique is fairly well toe weighted (about 5:30), the 2-bar (center shafted) less so (about 4:00).
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2007, 11:14:18 AM » |
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using the shoulders only gate stroke. Currently I have 2 gamers as I am still trying different weight combos in my Mentor Quadra and Wishon Center Shafted 6 series.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2007, 11:19:29 AM » |
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Hey, someone put in the "wristy" option just for me! As for my putter, I have no idea what some of those terms mean. I use a semi-mallet on a plumbers neck. Similar to this one  -greg |
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2007, 11:30:41 AM » |
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Hey, someone put in the "wristy" option just for me! As for my putter, I have no idea what some of those terms mean. I use a semi-mallet on a plumbers neck. Similar to this one -greg Yeah,  I see the older guys at the club using the "wristy" stroke -- so it's still not extinct -- yet.  When it's not working for them, they tend to change their grip instead of their stroke. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2007, 11:39:00 AM » |
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Yeah, I see the older guys at the club using the "wristy" stroke -- so it's still not extinct -- yet. When it's not working for them, they tend to change their grip instead of their stroke. Well, I turn 35 in two weeks, and I plan to golf well into my 90's, so I think it will be a while before it becomes extinct.  |
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2007, 12:24:00 PM » |
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arc'd gate. a few Newport 2 style necks. a couple of face balanced mallets. a couple of no-offset heel shafted's. used to have an Odyssey #9 (phil mick flange). newport 2 works best (w/ that offset), but i strive to rotate to keep from getting stale.
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2007, 12:37:09 PM » |
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H/T with a slant neck.
I think I had been under the delusion that I was a SBST putter all these years and kept using face-balanced mallets and blades. I tend to lose it right with the plumbers neck, left with a center shaft. The slant neck has worked well. I have a very slight gate to my stroke it would seem, and the more offset nature of the slant neck helps me square up the face and also put a more upward strike on the ball at impact. I still have to learn to trust my reads better, but I really feel my stroke has improved, and especially my distance control, since going to this style of putter.
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2007, 04:32:57 PM » |
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Gated Stroke with a Heel Toe Weighted 1.5 Neck putter
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2007, 09:13:59 PM » |
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SBST low hand low.....
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2007, 09:37:12 PM » |
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I'm afraid i'm stuck between a gated stroke and a STST swing..........depends on the day, lol.
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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2007, 01:08:21 AM » |
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I attempt to do a Pat O'Brien type putting stroke. I am definitely shoulders only but somehow do not always complete my follow through. Consequently some of my putts seem like taps. I am just about to use a SeeMore putter with the large grip so I'll see if that gets me putting properly.
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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2007, 07:18:49 AM » |
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I use a center-shafted Mentor Triad II and make a slightly arced stroke, so I voted SBST. My arc is modest, at best.
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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2007, 07:21:57 AM » |
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Off Topic Comment -- maybe we need to discuss the sbst method in another thread -- I've always thought (and heard) that the SBST centered around a manipulation of the hands in order to maintain the SBST - if you hands are quiet during the stroke without manipulation (unless your spine is parallel to the ground and you only move your arms or a combo of arms/shoulders), you've got an arc, slight or not.
But heck - I don't know anything about SBST because I've never taken an interest in it.
Now back to our regularly scheduled thread.
I've begun another thread on sbst -- please post on SBST techniques in that thread.
Thanks,
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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2007, 07:25:00 AM » |
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I don't know how to copy your post into mine, Swingman, but based on your criteria I a am an arc putter. My hands are as quiet as a church mouse.
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2007, 08:47:10 AM » |
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I always thought that I was a straight back with a little arc towards the end. I guess I was wrong as I did a mini putter fitting last night on the TOMI machine and was blown away. My tempo is a little off but my stroke is what amazed me. I am a Billy Maifar(sp) putter though. I have an outside in swing path that is about 2.6 degrees which surprised me. But my aim at impact was anywhere from .3 degrees to .6 degrees offline to the left. Somwhere in my swing the compensation is proving useful. Not sure what does it but time to not change as the fitter said that was remarkable considering the stroke path. That was my first time ever putting with my jumbo tiger shark grip. The putter is a guerrin rife aussie putter with a little bit of toe hang.
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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2007, 02:41:28 PM » |
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dont use the tomi if you want accurate measurements
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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2007, 11:25:45 PM » |
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dont use the tomi if you want accurate measurements
Why is that? |
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2007, 11:05:26 AM » |
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dont use the tomi if you want accurate measurements
Why is that? Here's the dirt. |
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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2007, 02:21:42 PM » |
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been to 3 trade shows and never seen it working
on 1 demo where one unit was working there seemed to be something strange going on
if you make your normal stroke on the first putt, then 4 wierd and wonderful ones - they all show up similar to the first
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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2007, 02:35:59 AM » |
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I always thought that I was a straight back with a little arc towards the end. I guess I was wrong as I did a mini putter fitting last night on the TOMI machine and was blown away. My tempo is a little off but my stroke is what amazed me. I am a Billy Maifar(sp) putter though. I have an outside in swing path that is about 2.6 degrees which surprised me. But my aim at impact was anywhere from .3 degrees to .6 degrees offline to the left. Somwhere in my swing the compensation is proving useful. Not sure what does it but time to not change as the fitter said that was remarkable considering the stroke path. That was my first time ever putting with my jumbo tiger shark grip. The putter is a guerrin rife aussie putter with a little bit of toe hang.
Full agreement about Tomi, but not surprised about outside in stroke or face open to the path as compensation. Pretty common, especially for players who try to put their eyes directly over the ball. |
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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2007, 01:47:49 PM » |
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eyes don't necessarily have to be over the ball or inside the ball - just in a constant fixed position
however the closer you are to being over the ball has the effect of producing a shallower movement pattern and if you do multiply face angle then your doing it with less variable.
plus most peoples perception of what is "eyes over the ball" isn't correct
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