THE MICHELLE WIE THREAD

[rcain1us]

No one want to notice that Michelle shot a 67 yesterday? Includes a 2 on a par 4. Corner turned? We shall see, but good round for her.

I am glad no one noticed, that is a good sign.

She should have to do it 3-4 rounds in a row an be in the mix on sunday for anyone in the media or otherwise to care - that would be a sign or her turning into a normal LPGA professional like the rest of the ladies out there.

[DaveT319]

One good round, without a solid follow-up, is merely a fluke until proven otherwise. It's too soon for me to claim her to be "back". She still has plenty of time to fold like she usually does. If she finishes the tournament strong, then maybe we can start discussing the possibility that she's returning to old form.

Dave

[br61]

Looks like another good round in the making, -4 after 7 for her 2nd round, -9 overall, just 3 shot back of lead. Hope she can regain her form and earn it the hard way.

[DaveT319]

Looks like another good round in the making, -4 after 7 for her 2nd round, -9 overall, just 3 shot back of lead. Hope she can regain her form and earn it the RIGHT way.

Fixed it for you.

Dave

[br61]

Fixed it for you.

Dave

Correct, hard and right way for Michelle is still the same in her case.

It's good to see her post a cool 65 to sit just 1 shot back. I really do hope that she's got her form back and that she's learned her life lessons the hard way. Or should I say the "right" way! LOL 

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

It is good to see Michelle playing well. Hopefully she can keep it up.

Remember she did it the RIGHT way the first time - hard work! She earned every penny of her $30 million. She had NO shortcuts to her $30 million - she worked for the golf swing that earned her the money and the exemptions. She did it the RIGHT way the first time and now she's doing it the RIGHT way a different way. Neither RIGHT way has any greater validity than the other - not in America anymore - that died long ago - ask any trust fund baby or any tournament committee or corporation wanting a fast buck on the next phenom.

-Ed-

[Hungsolo]

Hey All,

It is good to see Michelle playing well. Hopefully she can keep it up.

Remember she did it the RIGHT way the first time - hard work! She earned every penny of her $30 million. She had NO shortcuts to her $30 million - she worked for the golf swing that earned her the money and the exemptions. She did it the RIGHT way the first time and now she's doing it the RIGHT way a different way. Neither RIGHT way has any greater validity than the other - not in America anymore - that died long ago - ask any trust fund baby or any tournament committee or corporation wanting a fast buck on the next phenom.

-Ed-

Wow Ed, how many right ways are there?  You do realize that Michelle Wie has won as many tournaments as I have since 2003?  Right?  Can I have 30 million?

[Cwebb]

Hey All,

It is good to see Michelle playing well. Hopefully she can keep it up.

Remember she did it the RIGHT way the first time - hard work! She earned every penny of her $30 million. She had NO shortcuts to her $30 million - she worked for the golf swing that earned her the money and the exemptions. She did it the RIGHT way the first time and now she's doing it the RIGHT way a different way. Neither RIGHT way has any greater validity than the other - not in America anymore - that died long ago - ask any trust fund baby or any tournament committee or corporation wanting a fast buck on the next phenom.

-Ed-

I need an explanation here.  How in the world did she earn $30 million the first time? 

[bogeycentral]

N-I-K-E = $30 million

[DaveT319]

Wow Ed, how many right ways are there?  You do realize that Michelle Wie has won as many tournaments as I have since 2003?  Right?  Can I have 30 million?

Yeah, especially since there's female golfers who have won FAR more tournaments - both as an amateur and as a professional - who don't have endorsement contracts anywhere near as lucrative as Michelle's. Her $30 million is based solely on HYPE, not actual achievement. Hell, Lorena Ochoa, the #1 women's golfer, didn't even have a contract with Ping until last year. Does that make any sense?

Dave

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

I believe that Michelle Wie's $30 million was based upon achievement.

Michelle's achievement was the ability to hit a golf ball 300 yds at age 14 or 15 and score decently on a golf course - that is an achievement.

An alternative achievement is to prove your mettle playing in tournaments and winning against your peers. That too is an achievement.

Enter the world of capitalism. Which achievement will make my corporation more money? Which can I get more BLING out of by advertising? Which do I believe will bring the most return on investment? To Hellll with golf it's history, tradition and culture - that's all Krap. This is about money and NOTHING else. Which will bring me more money?

Nike made a choice - did it ultimately prove profitable to Nike? I don't know. But to put it on Michelle's shoulders as if she did something wrong - when as a minor child it was not her decision - is I believe wrong and I will always say so. If you want to slam her parents, the corporate world, Nike, tournament committees, the LPGA do so - I likely won't disagree - but Michelle should not be the lightening rod for this.

So what Michelle got she got based on her achievements. If you don't like the achievement choice Nike wanted to invest $30 million in blame Nike - not Michelle. I believe that big capitalism has a very rotten core that lacks honor, integrity and ethics as money is all that matters. I believe in small scale capitalism that puts CEOs and boards far closer and directly accountable to their customers - but enuff of that...

Your point about other golfers not getting the recognition they deserve is absolutely right! Lorena deserves far more as do I believe some of the Korean golfers. But we don't live in a world in which real achievement is the gold standard when it comes to money - look at the salary's of corporate CEOs. Be nice if we did though.

-Ed-

[Hungsolo]

Ed, nobody's blaming Michelle for taking 30 mil.  We're just saying she didn't do anything to EARN the money.  It was GIVEN to her.  Hell, all of us would take it.  She just didn't earn it.

BTW, she just got (Saturday) DQ'ed for signing an incorrect scorecard on friday.  I will blame her for that.  What an idiot if that's what really happened.

[Hungsolo]

Wie fails to sign scorecard, gets disqualified from State Farm

Associated Press

Updated: July 19, 2008, 4:13 PM ET


SPRINGFIELD, Ill. -- Michelle Wie finished the third round of the State Farm Classic alone in second on Saturday -- that is, if she hadn't already been disqualified.

Wie failed to sign her scorecard after Friday's second round. She showed up Saturday and shot 5-under 67 to finish alone in second at 17 under, one stroke back of Yani Tseng. That's when Wie learned of the LPGA's ruling.

The 18-year-old Wie, who appeared to have been crying, told reporters she made a mistake.

"I don't know how it happened," she said.

Wie, who is playing a part-time schedule while attending Stanford, was having by far her best tournament of the year. She opened with a 5-under 67 and followed with rounds of 65 and 67 -- though the last two won't count.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

[SPY ZINGER]

Wie fails to sign scorecard, gets disqualified from State Farm

Associated Press

Updated: July 19, 2008, 4:13 PM ET


SPRINGFIELD, Ill. -- Michelle Wie finished the third round of the State Farm Classic alone in second on Saturday -- that is, if she hadn't already been disqualified.

Wie failed to sign her scorecard after Friday's second round. She showed up Saturday and shot 5-under 67 to finish alone in second at 17 under, one stroke back of Yani Tseng. That's when Wie learned of the LPGA's ruling.

The 18-year-old Wie, who appeared to have been crying, told reporters she made a mistake.

"I don't know how it happened," she said.

Wie, who is playing a part-time schedule while attending Stanford, was having by far her best tournament of the year. She opened with a 5-under 67 and followed with rounds of 65 and 67 -- though the last two won't count.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

Hung she didn't have to do anything to earn the money because she already had simply by doing what she had done to that point. We don't know the terms of her agreement but I suspect there were not performance requirements other than showup and advertise and play Nike equipment.

Not signing a scorecard is an incredible blunder especially when your playing well. But it's happened before and it'll happen again but I'd bet $ to donuts it won't happen to Michelle again.

-Ed-

[BigLeftyinAZ]

Wie fails to sign scorecard, gets disqualified from State Farm

Associated Press

Updated: July 19, 2008, 4:13 PM ET


SPRINGFIELD, Ill. -- Michelle Wie finished the third round of the State Farm Classic alone in second on Saturday -- that is, if she hadn't already been disqualified.

Wie failed to sign her scorecard after Friday's second round. She showed up Saturday and shot 5-under 67 to finish alone in second at 17 under, one stroke back of Yani Tseng. That's when Wie learned of the LPGA's ruling.

The 18-year-old Wie, who appeared to have been crying, told reporters she made a mistake.

"I don't know how it happened," she said.

Wie, who is playing a part-time schedule while attending Stanford, was having by far her best tournament of the year. She opened with a 5-under 67 and followed with rounds of 65 and 67 -- though the last two won't count.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

Wow,How do you not sign your score card?Also how was she allowed to tee off on saturday?What a shame,she was doing so well

[nobogeys59]

Huh! Poor Michelle, that was a huge mistake.

[AirTime]

How was she ever allowed to leave the scoring hut without having signed her card? If she deliberately declined to sign it okay, but letting her go knowing she didn't sign her card....somehow I took the spirit of the game for something else...my mistake.

[DaveT319]

Hey All,

Hung she didn't have to do anything to earn the money because she already had simply by doing what she had done to that point. We don't know the terms of her agreement but I suspect there were not performance requirements other than showup and advertise and play Nike equipment.

Not signing a scorecard is an incredible blunder especially when your playing well. But it's happened before and it'll happen again but I'd bet $ to donuts it won't happen to Michelle again.

-Ed-

...which was almost nothing. She hit 300 yard drives (occasionally); so does Lorena. She won the US Amateur PubLinx; Morgan Pressel won the US Amateur and Yani Tseng BEAT Michelle the year after, and has won a major. She hasn't accomplished much of anything to warrant getting that much money; it was entirely based on HYPE. That's the problem we all have. Would we have turned down the money under the same circumstances? Of course not. But to say that she has EARNED that money is absurd. To say that she DESERVED that money is also absurd.

Dave

[DaveT319]

How was she ever allowed to leave the scoring hut without having signed her card? If she deliberately declined to sign it okay, but letting her go knowing she didn't sign her card....somehow I took the spirit of the game for something else...my mistake.

I know. With so much on the line, why don't they check that stuff right then, before the player leaves? How long does it take for the scorer to check to make sure the scorecard is signed and the scores are correct? A couple minutes maybe? What the hell are the scorers there for if they can't catch something like that before the player inadvertently DQs themselves? That's ridiculous.

Dave

[Jaylasvegas]

HEY, ALL

she made a WIE bit of a mistake

[BigLeftyinAZ]

HEY, ALL

she made a WIE bit of a mistake

 

[Dr.Green]

HEY, ALL

she made a WIE bit of a mistake

Apparently just one more "learning experience"............what's the over/under on this caddy being fired? 

[Jaylasvegas]

word is  she was telling the officials  " like, cant I just text you my scores, OMG"

[rcain1us]