Equitable Stroke Control oddity

[drewspin]

http://www.usga.org/playing/handicaps/understanding_handicap/articles/esctest.html

Equitable Stroke Control oddity:

If a 9 handicap plays a 10 handicap, they both score a 7 on a par 3, the max score the 9 handicap can record for handicap purposes is a 5, while the max score the 10 handicap can record is a 7.

[rp]

That whole system is a little skewed, but there is no way for them to come up with something perfect.

[Dr.Green]

I think I remember there was a guy who used to post here that just might be able to answer that question. 

[XtremeCruiser]

I think I remember there was a guy who used to post here that just might be able to answer that question. 

I asked AEC4 for the answer and here is the way it works

The original ESC procedure called for you to be allowed to take a double bogey for each stroke of your course handicap.  In other words, if you were a 6, you could take at most 6 doubles. That was way too confusing for people, so then they changed it to 6s for 0-9, 7s 10-19, 8s for  20-29, 9s for 30-39 and 10s otherwise.  Well, they found that was too skewed for 0-9s, so they changed it to double.
Basically, the formula is not perfect, but the other was too difficult for golfers to use, so people were ignoring ESC.  this one is simpler.

[schwarpa]

http://www.usga.org/playing/handicaps/understanding_handicap/articles/esctest.html

Equitable Stroke Control oddity:

If a 9 handicap plays a 10 handicap, they both score a 7 on a par 3, the max score the 9 handicap can record for handicap purposes is a 5, while the max score the 10 handicap can record is a 7.

That's what they would report, but in terms of the match shouldn't all strokes count?  When a PGA Tour player gets a 12 on a hole it counts as a 12 in that tournament but in terms of his handicap he is only taking a double bogey. 

Is this thinking incorrect?

[Charlie_Foxtrot]

Can someone edumakate me on Equitable Stroke Control?

For example, I know that ESC is a procedure whereby abnormally high individual hole scores are adjusted downward prior to the score being posted.  But what if I totally suck and all of my holes are high?

But what if my handicap index club allows inputting online?  Am I supposed to adjust the score before I enter the score, or does the software do that for me?

[SBR67]

I think I remember there was a guy who used to post here that just might be able to answer that question. 

What happened to that guy, anyway?

[SVonhof]

Can someone edumakate me on Equitable Stroke Control?

For example, I know that ESC is a procedure whereby abnormally high individual hole scores are adjusted downward prior to the score being posted.  But what if I totally suck and all of my holes are high?

Then you sucked that day, plain and simple. You can take the max on each hole and if your course handicap is over 30, that means a 9 is max on each hole and you can theoretically post a 162, or a 144 if your course handicap is between 20-30.....

But what if my handicap index club allows inputting online?  Am I supposed to adjust the score before I enter the score, or does the software do that for me?

You always post your ESC, doesn't matter if you are posting on the computer in the pro shop or from home a week later online.

[Penguins66]

That's what they would report, but in terms of the match shouldn't all strokes count?  When a PGA Tour player gets a 12 on a hole it counts as a 12 in that tournament but in terms of his handicap he is only taking a double bogey. 

Is this thinking incorrect?

Nope it is not incorrect.  . That seems right to me. Nicely done. 

[minitour]

That's what they would report, but in terms of the match shouldn't all strokes count?  When a PGA Tour player gets a 12 on a hole it counts as a 12 in that tournament but in terms of his handicap he is only taking a double bogey. 

Is this thinking incorrect?

Nope it is not incorrect.  . That seems right to me. Nicely done. 

While it seems "Correct", I don't know if it seems "right". 

-mini