Golf Ball Specs/Table

[Cwebb]

I have not found most of the testing in the golf magazines to be accurate.  They're done with one goal IMO......and that's to promote products for whichever company is paying them at the time.  They can set these tests up and skew the numbers however they need to....

Example, have a player testing a 2 piece ball vs a premium ball with a driver that's not fit properly. 

[FreshTrax]

I have been using the Cally TourIx for the last couple rounds. I love it. Very straight and awesome around the greens.  Thanks for the stats.  A great help.

[DaveTheDuffer]

I have been using the Cally TourIx for the last couple rounds. I love it. Very straight and awesome around the greens.  Thanks for the stats.  A great help.

I also like the Cally TourIx.  Feels nice off the driver and distance seems fine (haven't hit it on a LM yet) and spins pretty much as well as the ProV1.  I have 2 dozen - that should last at least two or three rounds.   

[Cwebb]

I also like the Cally TourIx.  Feels nice off the driver and distance seems fine (haven't hit it on a LM yet) and spins pretty much as well as the ProV1.  I have 2 dozen - that should last at least two or three rounds.   

It only spins close to the ProV1 on shorter shots.  With the driver, it's not even close.  You'll be shocked when you get this thing on an LM.

[Captain Joesterio]

Can You post the TM LDP Red numbers?  i seem to be slightly better all around with that versus the tour IX.  The IX feels just a touch firm for me.

[bcheeks]

Have you guys had a chance to test the Srixon zurs and zurc?  I'd love to see some numbers on these.

[mainuh]

I've tried to compile some of Cwebb's ball testing.  I'll add to the table as more info is made available.  Hopefully this will help.  If any of you guys/gals want balls added to this table, and have some numbers, pm the info to me.

BALL NAME	SWING SPD DRIVER	BALL SPD DRIVER	DRIVER SPIN	8-IRON SPIN	WEDGE SPIN
Precept UTriTour	112-115	159-163	2700-3500
HX HOT	112-115		1800-2200
HX TOUR	112-115	161-166	2300-2800
STRATA TL TOUR	112-115	160-164	2300-2750		8300-9000
BSTONE e5	112-115	160	2600		4400
BSTONE e6	112-115	158	2750		3500
Srixon AD-333		160-162	2300-2700		3900-4600
Nike ONE Black		162-164	2800-3300		7800-8500
BSTONE B330 (06)					7400
BSTONE B330-S (06)					8600
BSTONE B330 (07)	112-115	162-165	2500-3000		10250
BSTONE B330-S (07)		163-165	2500-2800		8900-9400
ProV1					9300
ProV1x	112-115	162-166	2400-2800		9700
Nike Ignite	112-115	157-159	2700-3000		7800
TP Red	112-115	162-165	2600-3000		10115

Any new balls/data that can be added to this list ?

Mojo on the way for Tony and Colby for this great info.

rob

BTW - unless I missed it, this list would be a terrific sticky for the forum members.

[bfa]

It only spins close to the ProV1 on shorter shots.  With the driver, it's not even close.  You'll be shocked when you get this thing on an LM.

Do you mean it spins more or less than the PRoV1?

Thanks for info!

[Cwebb]

Do you mean it spins more or less than the PRoV1?

Thanks for info!

Much much less off the driver with the ix vs the ProV1.

If you prefer a softer feel in a ball, but you want a lot less spin off the driver vs the ProV1, try the TaylorMade Red LDP for maxed out low spin.......or the Cally Tour i for something in between.

[robmc826]

Any spin numbers for the callaway tour i or ix??

[My2Dogs]

how does the LDP TP Red compare vs the LDP TP Black?  I play the red now but do not get much roll off the driver.   great around the greens best ball I have played for that but was wondering if the Black was that far off on the greens with better driver numbers.

[Cwebb]

how does the LDP TP Red compare vs the LDP TP Black?  I play the red now but do not get much roll off the driver.   great around the greens best ball I have played for that but was wondering if the Black was that far off on the greens with better driver numbers.

If you're not getting much roll because the launch and spin is too high, the Black won't help you.  It's the higher spinning of the TM premiums and will be at least as good around the greens vs the Red.  You probably need a lower loft driver.

[Cwebb]

Any spin numbers for the callaway tour i or ix??

The Tour i is an outstanding ball.  Softer feel than the ix, but driver spin is only a little higher.  I could easily use it off the driver, but prefer the lower spin full iron shot characterisics of the ix. 

For the player who's looking for ProV1 action around the greens and off the irons, but also wants lower driver spin......you need to test the Tour i.

[neonlew]

Hungsolo, do you have any comparable chart showing data on golf balls for slower swingers, say in the 70 to 80 mph range?

Lew

[Hungsolo]

Hungsolo, do you have any comparable chart showing data on golf balls for slower swingers, say in the 70 to 80 mph range?

Lew

Sorry, I don't.  I just posted what numbers I was given.

[longfornothing]

Very Very confused about all this ball stuff.

10 hdcp 106 MPH Driver SS and 89 MPH 5 iron SS, I hit a very high ball, with lots of spin. Rough avg of 280 yds with the driver, 155/165 yds 7iron depending on ball and temperature. Traditionally, I haven't been able to keep a "higher spin/premium ball" on the course due to excessive side spin. Not so bad with the driver/woods, but mainly with short irons/wedges. Ballooning and short right. Of course my swing was out to in. Used e6+ for the last year which helped straighten my shots quite a bit. I recently converted to e7+ for the alleged lower trajectory. Haven't really noticed a lower trajectory w/ e7+. Better performance in the wind however. Lately though, I'm coming in more on plane and inside/square/inside and my ball striking has improved and I would like to start trying to get more control over the ball for the short game. Right now I have to play for quite a bit of roll out. Tried the RX, but it was similar to the e5+ for me, moon ball and didn't go anywhere.

Was under the impression that through testing, the latest 330 was the higher spin ball of the two 330 balls from Bridgestone, not the 330S, as most people assume the S is for Spin. Yes or No?

The 330S is softer for less than 112 mph SS and the firmer 330 was for 113 and up. Is this correct? If so, what performance should we expect of the 330 at my 106 mph SS? Less/more spin than 330S at same speed?

Also, about this business of lower trajectory from the premium balls. So, using my SS numbers above for example, a 330/330S or V1/V1X will produce a lower or higher trajectory than a e6+/e7+??? Off all clubs in general or just the wedges?

Last question, and most important one to me as this is the most confusing part. Given my personal data from above, which of the two premium balls offered from Sirxon, Callaway, Taylor Made, or Bridgestone premium balls should I select to start my own personal testing? Basically I need a ball that I can keep on the course, but still give some controllable spin for the short game. Chasing ghosts???

The real last question, LOL, is there a source where I can purchase just a 3 ball sleeve for testing? All the courses/shops around here only have the Titleist balls available in sleeves. I'm not a Titleist guy.

Any help will be appreciated. Thank you to the gentlemen who did the leg work on this thread.

[Cwebb]

There's two premium balls that you need to test, which will give you very low driver spin, mid iron spin, and high partial wedge spin.  The Callaway Tour ix and the TaylorMade Red LDP.  The ix will feel firmer, the Red will have a softer "compression" feel.

Your question about launch angles with different balls......a soft cover premium ball will generally launch lower off the irons/wedges because the grooves "grab" the soft cover.  As a result the ball doesn't slide up the face as much.  So you end up with lower launch, but higher spin.

The Bridgestone premium balls have been very confusing over the last couple years.  For the '08 models, I found that the "S" produced slightly lower spin off the driver.  I also found the standard 330 to produce slightly higher partial wedge spin.  They're very close though, nothing big.

If you want to maximize your short game options, you have to use a premium soft cover ball.  There's no way around it. 

[longfornothing]

Dude, you are the bomb. Not only did you answer my question, but it took you 12 mins!!!! That is what I'm talking about.

Thank you so much.

[dbigs44]

Any chance we could see a couple more of the midrange balls on the list.  Specifically the Nike One Vapor and the HX Hot Plus.  I'd be interested in knowing if the Plus spins a little better around the greens than the old one.  I'm in grad school now.  Can't afford the Bridgestones anymore. 

[Cwebb]

Any chance we could see a couple more of the midrange balls on the list.  Specifically the Nike One Vapor and the HX Hot Plus.  I'd be interested in knowing if the Plus spins a little better around the greens than the old one.  I'm in grad school now.  Can't afford the Bridgestones anymore. 

What I've found with the midrange priced 'value' balls, is that there's not enough of a significant difference to bother testing all of them.

The one lower priced ball that does produce a little more partial wedge spin, is the Bstone E5 which has a slightly softer cover.  Although still nowhere close to a premium ball.

[dbigs44]

Ah.  Ok.  Thanks.

[Duane]

hey guys,

i need some help with ball choice for my driver... i really have not a clue to my driver numbers " swing speed / spin rate " etc, but i will attempt to describe my problem...

i seem to "carry" the ball about 260 / 270 under normal conditions with tons of roll... but, i really think i could gain a fair amount of carry if i didn't hit the darn ball so low... my normal ball flight is right to left or left to left  , and i do realize part of the problem is me being to much on top of the ball when i swing...

i usually play the prov1 / x, and i am wondering if another ball choice would help with the carry...

thanks...

Duane

[DaveT319]

Maybe something with more spin? But then you have to worry about the wind effecting it more. Perhaps you should stick with the same ball and go up in loft a degree?

Dave

[Kopitar]

Thanks for the info guys. You convinced me to step up to a premium ball and I'm liking my short game. I can't wait until the TP reds arrive Thursday.

[Bigiron369]

Ok, it finally happened.
I lost my last good ball last nite 
Well, at least i thought that they were good balls.
Pinnacle fx long gold.
At the beginning of last summer i had a 5 gallon bucket full.
Now, i don't know what to do, i gave away every ball that i had found.
I'm having issues with paying the going rate for premium balls
I'm just a cheap ass, & i know that i'll lose them faster than my bank account can support.
The onion bag looks appealing, Not!
Can we buy cases of dozens of any ball for less?
Maybe a palet of cases? LoL
Any wholesale ideas?  Thanks.........Johnny Lawson